10:34:35 Oh, my gosh! it is Wow! Whoa Okay, So welcome from wherever and whenever you are to the wired for connection.
10:34:54 Podcast My name is Elden, and I am Co-host here joined by my mother, Donna, and my partner, Aila, and i'll let the 2 of you introduce yourselves in whatever way feels comfy and appropriate for
10:35:09 you so I am so excited. this is donna I am so excited.
10:35:17 That wha Ellen and ila have spoken about being willing for you either to come on board and talk about cycle tracking, which is so important in male female relationships, and i'm so excited to have you here
10:35:31 today. Yeah, I live here. I am excited and curious as to what's gonna come up just for contacts I am on Cycle Day number 22.
10:35:48 So, Lady late Ludio pre menstrual the the red Crimson rivers will probably be arriving within the week, and it's probably a really interesting time to be talking about cycle tracking just from what I know about being this
10:36:04 part of my cycle, and what i'm feeling in myself I would I would term this the truth.
10:36:10 Teller phase. yeah before approaching the the more wise interior woman stage of the the menstrual period.
10:36:23 So it's probably some clearing energy that wants to come in, and some straight, direct like this is what the experience is, and also wanna name that, and just the energy of the cycle inherently because of the hormonal ships along
10:36:41 with many other factors. there's a at minimum 4 different energies that a woman is expressing.
10:36:50 And so this is just one aspect of my expression that's coming through today.
10:36:57 If you catch me, my filicular probably sound different. We wanted to name that here.
10:37:04 Could you outline those, so those of us who aren't familiar with the 4 stages could have one their name and 2.
10:37:11 What one might expect, either as a woman feeling them or a partner.
10:37:16 And there is it in relationship with them. yeah thank you let's just get right into it.
10:37:25 I mean this is this is really the the meat and potatoes are the bread and butter. when we're talking about cycle tracking is what are what are the cycles right?
10:37:37 And it's so beautiful the way. that i've experienced it because it's so inherently connected to the seasons and the cycles of nature.
10:37:51 I've ended also the the menstrual cycle. also typically not always, but typically follows, like a 28 day cycle, which is very much in line with the moon cycle.
10:38:06 So i've heard a few people how the the women cycle a Yoney verse. We have our own inner inner verse, universe inside of us which I think is super amazing for a big sky watcher like me
10:38:22 that's just into celestial bodies moving especially the moon.
10:38:28 But yeah, there's a lot that I could weave in here. but i'm just gonna go with something really basic
10:38:37 So day one is marked by the menstrual cycle.
10:38:43 The bleed, and that typically lasts anywhere from one to 7 days, so can be 3 days or 5 days. And that's considered the time of deep interiority.
10:38:56 A woman is setting and releasing endometrium lining.
10:39:02 At that time. all her hormones oh, that's I alarm telling me to eat, but I did that already.
10:39:11 I have a reminder to to eat good but I mostly I I just wanna segue that I I put that in because i'm also like experimenting with noticing my natural like hunger cues.
10:39:25 And if i'm actually like if it is how i'm like timing it, I like time to eat about 3 to 4 h, and actually like is pretty on point, so that's another piece of tracking.
10:39:34 But let me go back to what I was saying. The The menstrual period is this deep interiority time where the woman is shedding her endometrium mining and her hormones are actually at the lowest level at that
10:39:47 point. her energy typically tends to be very low.
10:39:52 And I stand out more recently to that. The left and right hemispheres of the brain actually are communicating a lot more harmoniously at that time.
10:40:05 So women has access right to her her like let's say the poeticness.
10:40:11 But she also can clearly she you can be logical.
10:40:16 At the same time. And so this is just a good time for using the dream space really to organize the thoughts.
10:40:26 A woman during her menstrual day tends to be much more permeable at as well, and a lot of the like.
10:40:33 The subconscious is absorbing the environment much more deeply at that time. she's like really in her deep yin and receptive energy. and then we move out of menstrual. and then we enter like cause a part.
10:40:53 of this I wanna bring in like the relational aspect totally and 1 one more thing, and i'd love for you to jump in.
10:41:00 I just I wanna team it because I said, The thing about seasons is that the menstrual is considered the winter phase, or and also the new moon phase
10:41:10 The cycle. Okay, So that's a big chunk of information you just gave.
10:41:18 Yeah, yes, I what we lovingly refer to as a fire hose. that she has access to, and what we just got was just a small dose of a small dose of What could be the fire hose.
10:41:30 And I love it. Come, it's like whole and detailed and full of last more to expand into.
10:41:40 But thank you. That was a great yeah, Introduction: So part of why I wanted to talk about cycle tracking with you.
10:41:54 Aa and your mom on the podcast is because i've noticed as a man who doesn't experience these cycles like directly myself, that the more I said directly myself they're not internal cycles for me they I experience them
10:42:11 externally by proximity and one of the things that I've noticed is that ily the more that you're sharing about your cycles with me, and the more that i'm aware of where you're at and what
10:42:23 it means to be where you're at the more i'm able to meet you where you're at that like creates an environment where I at least feel like I feel like i'm more capable of being
10:42:42 relational with you. and i'm curious if you could share a little bit from your own personal experience.
10:42:49 Either one of you actually about like when you're in that that bleed cycle, the men sees like what are what are some of the things that you need from your environment, while you're in that winter?
10:43:03 Good question. Yeah, thank you for bringing that in i'd love to just jump in and i'll also it's really cool to be able to talk about this in in the context of a relationship right cause we're we
10:43:20 are in relationship. period. So with with everything. so
10:43:27 One of the things that i've noticed and I I need to name, that
10:43:34 I am really fully embracing and immersing myself in icyclical consciousness and rhythmic living.
10:43:43 And what that means is, there are cycles to everything and for me to say like there's a one size fits all during my menstrual lead in terms of what I need.
10:43:56 Would betray that's cyclicalness so what i'm gonna share is just some of the things that like
10:44:06 I've noticed tend to be what I need more often but that is also subject to change and go through a cycle in itself.
10:44:15 But normally, when i'm in my men sees environmentally, at least for the first 3 days.
10:44:26 I really need a slow down, quiet, minimal distraction space.
10:44:31 Just to to be with myself and to rest to have warm, you know.
10:44:38 Tea and soups and in terms of you know being in partnership, and I feel really privileged and lucky and grateful to have a relationship where I can express these things and have a partner that's willing
10:44:53 to meet me in these things. So thank you, Alden.
10:44:59 Like sometimes just sitting in the room with me, and laying a hand on my low belly or my low back.
10:45:08 Is really supportive, and having some of that time of gentle touch and presence.
10:45:15 And also just the pressure being relieved of having to do anything.
10:45:22 Besides deeply connecting to this powerful, sacred, prayerful experience of shedding sled
10:45:40 One of the things that stood out to me. in listening to you is what you kind of started with like this cycle being that you are, that you are, and are honoring and kind of I guess the inherent danger of trying to
10:45:55 classify anything in that context. I really appreciate you like acknowledging that, and like calling that forward, and it feels for me like like just using the winter analogy.
10:46:09 It's like there's like every winter is different like using like environmental, like like the rainfall, might be different.
10:46:17 The temperatures might be different, like like the fall was different.
10:46:19 So the winter is different. The summer was different, so the winter is different.
10:46:24 The winter is different, so the winter is different, and it just feels like such a Hmm!
10:46:32 I know that. Okay, I don't wanna take up too much space.
10:46:36 But one of the things that pops in here for me is this awareness that this idea of cyclical living and the knowledge of a woman cycle was not something that was centered in my education, and learning how to to be a
10:46:53 person in relationship to other beings and so i'm hoping that what this does is to plant some seeds for for both personal and interpersonal exploration and question, asking and I know that and I feel free
10:47:13 to jump in here if what i'm saying is is Miss speaking for your experience.
10:47:16 But I think that one of the things that's the most important in my relating to your cycle, I feel that it's the most important is actually just being curious with where you're at and choosing to
10:47:30 meet your needs from that place I need to close the garage door real quick.
10:47:35 I'm gonna be right back one moment. Can we keep talking or should we wait until you get back?
10:47:43 Well, I i'd love to keep talking actually well, one of my questions
10:47:53 The idea of women's well, first off i'm very grateful to have this information be shared in such steps, because I do think there are many men and women who are out of touch with women cycles.
10:48:09 And it's a relational dilemma the notion of what actually is happening within a woman and her man or her partner, Any other female knowing about that is important.
10:48:30 But I was also struggling with what about the women who can't be that cyclically
10:48:38 They they can't be that restful in that winter slow and internal on these first 3 days do you have any ideas or recommendations for them.
10:48:56 And again I understand It's some of it is a choice. but some of it is people not having choices so much so.
10:49:04 How do they manage that? Do you have any? I love love, love?
10:49:09 This question. I was just listening to one of my teachers kiddist Ashley, who is the founder of the room room, which is a a group of incredible women that I'm connecting with right now But I was
10:49:27 listening to one of her teachings yesterday, when she first she was sharing this experience when she first came across what we would call like a lunar living like really embracing the cycle. and she's a
10:49:45 woman's like nutritionist and midwife my training.
10:49:53 But she was expressing like, Yeah, you know, she was absorbing a lot of like cyclical living teachings from women that were white and had, like the you know, this the resource to be able to slow down and
10:50:10 and attain what they needed to be able to tend to their cycles right.
10:50:17 And she was sharing that, and she is Ethiopian
10:50:23 And so she was like well you know that's great that you're able to do that.
10:50:27 But like myself and some other woman that I know like they don't have that luxury to be able to embrace a more cyclical living, let alone slow down for you know one to 2 days.
10:50:38 So it it's right on point with a question that you ask, and I I really loved her reflection around it.
10:50:46 And first of all, she was addressing sort of this this this thing about reclaiming and body sovereignty like really like the education in itself isn't it's an important piece what you choose to do with that is what you choose to
10:51:03 do with that right, but like at least beginning to seek out the information and and beginning to just notice and be open to what the information is sharing with you like just learning about the cycle right?
10:51:20 And then making, you know, on a more practical level like small things so like, let's say you are busy with 3 kids.
10:51:29 That was me at 1 point with little ones that couldn't take care of themselves, and and and asking for a little bit of help or letting the laundry pile up.
10:51:42 You know it's like making little adjustments and looking at what it is that you can let go of in your bleed.
10:51:54 Yeah, and then building from there and then more most importantly is really having some compassion and forgiveness or yourself. if you don't think you're like getting it right or not doing what you're supposed to do you know
10:52:11 it's it's it's a big overhaul and rewiring for sure.
10:52:16 But little steps little steps that's lovely thank you That's really a good Yeah, Thanks for asking that question, cause the not wanting to have shame like Oh I'm. supposed to be learning cycling
10:52:32 and paying attention to it, and I like have to go to work, and I have a report to do, and I have 3 kids and so like.
10:52:40 Now I'm not like not wanting to stack on more shame about being the most inestantly tuned to himself, but having the education like, because I know a lot of women feel like they're crazy.
10:52:53 and and their their mates feel like they're crazy So this whole notion of no this isn't crazy this is body.
10:53:02 This is cycles. This is learning in this very deep depth of life, how our bodies work.
10:53:10 Or female work. Yes, and I just I gotta jump in here real quick, too, about that, because, like it is like sort of the product of modernity.
10:53:21 Modernity. You know where we are just we are moving and living with like a very like productive mindset and getting things done, and it does not respect the inherent like cyclical nature of women.
10:53:38 And it also expresses itself with the way that we're tending our planet like, Are we really honoring like the seasonal ships, and really like, you know, taking care of our land according to the seasons.
10:53:50 And so yeah, I mean there's a lot to be said about that.
10:53:54 But I I really emphasize this piece on shame like there isn't anything wrong with you that you don't know this or that.
10:53:59 You're not following this this is an invitation for you to be clean.
10:54:04 Your power to reclaim yourself, and you get to do that in your own way.
10:54:09 Really but I would definitely say, just start to to learn about about that and see what your body is resonating with.
10:54:18 Yes, thank you. Yeah, Yeah, there's 2 things that I want to just call in here as we're moving towards
10:54:28 The next phase of the cycle. and just this is piggybacking on things that you you both already said.
10:54:34 But one being that at least for me, like the goal of knowledge like this for me.
10:54:43 Well, I would love to create change like that's not the first goal.
10:54:47 The first goal is just to know, so that I can I can compassionately understand what's happening.
10:54:54 And like for me, like you know, holding up the the the male polarity over here.
10:55:06 Mommy said the thing about like women and like potentially their partners like thinking that like just like Oh, you're crazy like there's that words like, oh, like she's hormonal right and it's like well, yeah
10:55:19 actually like there are hormones but like what does that mean and I like you'd shared this thing around like actually like from from a hormonal perspective.
10:55:28 Like there's 4 different at least for different makeups that a woman's gonna go through in any given any given cycle.
10:55:36 About 28 ish day cycle on it's like So we have this this joke that there's at least 4 different personalities that are going to come out and I know that for me like knowing that that is a thing that
10:55:48 is normal that it's not something that is wrong or like but it's actually something that we just need to like take into account.
10:55:58 Creates a lot of space for what needs to happen to happen, whatever that might be.
10:56:06 And one of the things for me getting getting through getting over getting past is this this common kind of like male dominated society thing?
10:56:18 And oh, she's just hormone i'll just wave it off dismiss that does not work that makes sense great.
10:56:27 You you have one when angry, like I don't know all the cycles yet.
10:56:31 But you have one angry bitch on your hands. Oh, yeah, yeah.
10:56:40 And I I just need to add something. in here, too, because by and large. A lot of the information that we've learned about like human bodies has actually centered men's bodies and men's like like needs like for example, We are I think
10:56:56 we are all aware of the Circadian rhythm Right?
10:56:59 This 20 four-hour period that works very well for the male body.
10:57:05 They have a 24 h hormonal cycle in it.
10:57:10 It works great. when the sun is up and the sun is down.
10:57:15 Women have They are moving with their their natural circadian rhythms, and they also have another internal clock that is called the infraredian rhythm, because in gradient in freightan like infrared but in
10:57:32 Fraudian: Okay. rhythm. Okay, and Freddie and rhythm is essentially the the 28 day hormonal cycle of women versus the 24 hormone 24 h hormoneal cycle of
10:57:46 men. so to pressure a woman to move through a 24 h hormonal cycle, or to to say nutritionally, or even movement.
10:57:57 Wise is what she needs to do to like.
10:58:02 Take care of her health, is disregarding the fact that she has an another in cycle that goes 28 days, or she has hormone shifting over a 28 day period.
10:58:15 Okay. The other thing, too, is that 6 years ago we just found this out right, that the Vegas nerve, the largest nerve that runs through the body, that hooks into all of the major organs for women the end of the
10:58:31 Vegas nerve Actually, hits the cervix.
10:58:35 So what can that mean? right? The cervix opening is constant.
10:58:44 Then communicating information through the negus, the Vegas nerve into the mind, the brain letting us letting the woman know the body know where she is in terms of her safety.
10:58:56 So we are in a very head, dominated culture, we're disconnected from our bodies in a lot of ways.
10:59:05 And so when a woman is like not interacting with her cervix and her her home space, and not aware of that, she essentially is, might not really know for certain if she is like in a place of safety, or not and so then again.
10:59:22 the mind will probably go on overdrive and start creating these stories.
10:59:28 And these situations where you know she's like staying in institutions that are not really good for her. we're doing things that are not really like healthy for her, because there's a disconnect you know of where
10:59:40 she is at in terms of safety because of the lack of connection to the womb.
10:59:47 Space. So those are just 2 things that I wanted to put in to highlight that a lot of the information that we could be consuming is really like talking about men's, bodies, and not taking into account that women have a very different
11:00:02 nuance and complex life giving cycle that they're moving through.
11:00:09 I like that added piece life giving yeah that's pretty key I haven't given birth to anything I've never seen a man do it.
11:00:22 I I wanna I wanna toss one more thing in here just piggybacking on what you just said.
11:00:26 Isa around like the information being kind of like male centered, and just like expanding out.
11:00:33 Also in that, like our societal systems. inclusive of of work and industry in general is also built around a man system which we've already talked about is so much more simple. Then Then the woman system like you all are way more complex than we are it's
11:00:49 just like like anatomically like whatever other words you want to toss in there for descriptors and it's you can't fit, like all all of that doesn't fit in the systems as as they're built and so
11:01:06 like in a very real sense. I like you were talking about like the the Vegas nerve connecting to the cervix, and like one of the things we know about the vegas nerve is that it's like mainly an
11:01:17 afferent nerve, meaning that it feeds the brain more than it's fed by the ner by the brain. and so like it seems logical to me, given all of that that for a woman to exist.
11:01:32 And in a survival context within, like the the like normative societal framework, like they actually have to shut that off.
11:01:42 You have to like separate yourself from that. A little bit because your body is not gonna feel safe in these frameworks that aren't built for your body.
11:01:53 Yeah. And I mean there's just like a deeper thing that i'm just gonna name here around just historically the oppressive things that have happened to women's body through bodies through time.
11:02:06 And how that's just carried and and that that vegas nerve.
11:02:11 I've heard it been called the trauma nerve right and so there is a constant possibility That traumatic information is being communicated to the brain.
11:02:27 From the wound space a space that is giving life.
11:02:31 But then might not be especially in our current culture a place that isn't given like the deep sacred acknowledgement.
11:02:42 You know we talk about protecting the sacred protecting the land. I'm not i'm not throwing that down at all.
11:02:49 I want to make it and inclusive it's like yes, and women's bodies.
11:02:55 Are a sacred vessel and it's just it makes me really sad that i'm just really beginning to enter rate this information.
11:03:07 And i'm excited. but you know I I feel really passionate in sharing this cause.
11:03:12 It's I feel that what's happening in our bodies is really a direct reflection in what's happening with our home or planet or home.
11:03:23 And it's impacting our relationships and just for another support of this in my I am taking a class in internal family system and somatics, and in episode today she was talking about how we have numbing parts that are
11:03:43 protectors, and she was specifically talking about the diaphragm as being one of the places we'll shut down.
11:03:53 So that you can't feel like you were saying if there's trauma starting from the cervix up the body numbs it out.
11:04:00 If it can't absorb or work, with it and that the diaphragm in particular is one of the places that we do do that much less i'm sure we do it.
11:04:08 In the womb space as well. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of body armoring So I am aware that I have to be off at 1130.
11:04:26 And so we have 25 more minutes and I don't want to rush.
11:04:30 But I just want to say, what do we want to do next?
11:04:33 In the time that we have, because I feel like we have more information here than we have time for this morning.
11:04:37 So I just wanna appreciate wherever we go with it.
11:04:42 And this could be. We just discuss what we've already discussed, and we have 3 more sessions for each court quadrant, or each cycle.
11:04:53 Each aspect of the cycles. How? how, How do you refer to each part of the cycle?
11:04:59 I guess you said 4 parts. Yeah. Well, I I I prefer to them by their names, actually.
11:05:07 Yeah, So you know, Yeah, i'm i'm open to the flow. Really, i'm curious, elder, if you're if one of your left arrows is seeing a direction.
11:05:17 Yeah, I think at this point I feel like you introduced us to winter to to the the men sees and i'm actually feeling like It's probably like it.
11:05:28 Now that we've fleshed out a lot of what came up with that let's maybe go into to the the molecular stage, and maybe we maybe we get through all for today.
11:05:39 Just in like a kind of a brief synopsis and maybe we get to circle back but that's I think that's where i'm where i'm feeling Yeah, no, this is So rich.
11:05:50 Wow! I mean there's a lot that came up in winter.
11:05:55 Okay, out. Yeah, well follicular, alright follicular.
11:06:04 Comes right after the the bleed is over, and this is our spring time.
11:06:11 Archetypal, you can consider it like the maiden phase It's very useful if there's a an honest, a a a bursting possibility of life force and creativity, and risk, energy, right it's
11:06:26 like a a, but is taking a risk to open up or push through the dirt.
11:06:36 And so that energy is very alive for a woman. At that time her energy levels are peaking, and her estrogen is beginning to ride.
11:06:43 Rise a little bit more. And so this is the stage where experimenting with new things.
11:06:52 Creating from the the soil of what you learn during your deep menstruation time can actually start to realize form at this time.
11:07:04 You know, and also just thinking about like work cycles.
11:07:08 Right like, let's say a woman has like a really awesome corporate job. Let's say like ideally she's able to take at least 3 days off to her menstrual cycle to really just like pull her energy in and
11:07:23 begin restoring comes molecular time into ovulatory oh, my gosh!
11:07:30 She has a powerhouse, she can start by bursting out.
11:07:34 You know, if we could frame the ones the work industry around the cycle for everybody.
11:07:40 Oh, I wonder how that would be, because when you look outside we see spring and summer, it's like abundant right.
11:07:47 Things are popping right? so coming back to follicular it's you can hear in my voice it's just this bursting energy of creativity, of possibility, of newness of seeing what is coming through the ground
11:08:02 of winter and learning now how to 10 min. This is a good time to just like
11:08:08 Change your diet a little bit, too, that's a whole other piece around cycling.
11:08:13 I i've been tracking my cycle in such a way where I eat and move my body according to where I am in my cycle.
11:08:20 So during circular I have more upperity, like dancing type workouts.
11:08:26 A little bit more cardio and an eating lighter foods.
11:08:28 Metabolism is a little bit lower at this point.
11:08:32 And the the left brain is a little bit more more active even though it's still retaining some of the the right brain.
11:08:43 Creative energy. it's now coming out as more yang it way wants to share and and show something.
11:08:51 So woman is like, Okay, I There was these dreams that were realized during my menstrual period, and they actually was able to shed and let go from the last cycle.
11:09:00 And now I'm like what is coming through the ground. now that I want to to show the world nice. so ellen i'm curious.
11:09:14 I was just gonna say when I mean using other language.
11:09:18 It sounds like the feminine in energy mixes now, with the yang energy, and they're more in a harmonic like I i'm just doing the figure 8 perfect perfect like blending back and forth it's like the
11:09:32 the yin part I mean how there's a little bit of Ian and Yang inside yang, and there's a little bit of yang inside of the inn, so the yang that's inside of the yin is
11:09:44 beginning to grow during the follicular and estrogen it That hormone is actually a gross hormone.
11:09:51 So you can imagine that there's like a growing energy Yeah, so, Ellen, i'm curious what is your experience of aya, early follicular look at is like date. time.
11:10:07 It's like we're gonna go out we're gonna find fun things to do.
11:10:10 We're gonna like read books and exchange information and explore podcasts, and like more of kind of like the the back and forth.
11:10:20 I also feel like it's a really good time to like It's a good time to process things
11:10:29 It's like that. the soil like to use that soil analogy.
11:10:31 It's like the soil has been kind of tilled like it's been aerated and now it's like a a time for like planting seeds of change if you will so things that have come up during
11:10:46 maybe like the ludial, and and men sees like now they get to like be like worked with as opposed to just being held.
11:10:55 And I I use that word just like I don't wanna minimize it.
11:10:58 It's like, but it it feels like a time of active work very much so.
11:11:05 Yes, yes, and so as as like the the male counterpart in this, it's like, and we haven't gotten into Ludo yet.
11:11:14 But it's like the my experience is that things come up for examination.
11:11:20 Things that like maybe aren't working well in the relationship things that aren't like.
11:11:25 If there's something that i'm doing that's like not supporting Aila.
11:11:29 You and your and your cycle and your being it tends to get pointed at during like the ludial and or the the menstrual cycle and if i'm actually in alignment with the cycles it's during
11:11:44 the follicular that I can actually take action to create change Whereas if I try to create create change during turing those, the previous phases tends to not really work Very well.
11:12:00 Kinda gotta be patient and like and listen and like sit with it.
11:12:05 And then, in this phase, I can actually go and do something about it, it's really brilliant what you're saying to, because you use the word holding and the main hormone during the ludial phase after after
11:12:20 ovulation is pro just your own and that is a holding hormone.
11:12:24 It's there to hold the endometrium lighting right and really may ensure that, like if right implantation and fertilization was to happen.
11:12:36 It's it's there you know to to take in that egg yeah.
11:12:42 So, ludio essentially is, that holding phase and then menstruals like, Okay, we're we're releasing and letting go and wintering.
11:12:52 It's not really an action time you know it's a conservation time and and comes spring.
11:12:59 Yes, it's that action. it's that bud you know that sprout coming through.
11:13:06 So yeah, I would say that you're you're lining up really?
11:13:09 Well, it's been a few cycles of practice at the point it's been going great.
11:13:18 Okay, So we have the molecular, and then we move into ovulatory.
11:13:22 Yeah, yeah. Well, Donna, was there anything that you know was coming alive for you?
11:13:29 I just think it's fun when learning about this, and then 2 watching the 2 of you talk about it.
11:13:38 This about it, and just like a information power and You're getting.
11:13:43 You. I learned getting more information about yourself to have share with you else, so that you get to have more understanding, which then forms a caller bond and or a more rhythmic living. between the 2 of you beautiful Hmm: Yeah, and you at
11:13:59 least you use the word playful cause. That is the follicular energy.
11:14:05 It is so playful. it's beautiful it's Rompy. it's like bunnies.
11:14:12 You know that kind of
11:14:19 So everyone yeah, let's let's go to ovulation.
11:14:21 So ovulation actually just found this out and it could be like off a little bit on the timing.
11:14:29 But it's really only like a 12 h event when ovulation happens. Yeah,
11:14:39 And ovulation is actually possible part of the molecular phase.
11:14:46 But for for most women, you know we tend to feel and I for certain myself feel that ovulation energy happens for about 4, 3 to 4 days.
11:14:54 I'm and this is like the summer season and it's archetypely.
11:15:02 You can consider the mother season and I it's just giving outpouring, nurturing caring for community.
11:15:11 It's this life force energy that is just available to be shared.
11:15:16 And so this time a woman is like very much more connecting to like community like taking care of our family needs a little bit less concerned with like serving her energy, because she has an abundance of energy to share right this mother's
11:15:31 just like overflowing the mother archetype is like yes, like i'm i'm here I i've got peak estrogen.
11:15:38 It's just it's here. let's we maximize this. let's utilize this but that lasts for about 3 to 4 days.
11:15:48 And you know this is also the time where you're really prime to to get pregnant you know.
11:15:56 So it's. also there's that in aspect in there that receptivity like I'm, also available to take in life and just state life.
11:16:05 And this is the time time to do it.
11:16:10 So, Alden? what's what'syla and ovulation for you?
11:16:18 Are we doing? which which rating version are we doing right Now
11:16:27 Well, that's kind of my answer no again it's it's like this.
11:16:33 Okay, it's a very embodied time it's a very body like connective time.
11:16:41 It's a great time for love making for dance for a little bit of indulgence cuddling like softness sensualness again.
11:16:58 Kind of like that fun energy. there's also like a is It is a reverence that I feel around this time.
11:17:10 Like you bring in that piece of like like life right it's like this is this is the time where you can get pregnant.
11:17:17 And there is a like a sanctity to that for me at least, that I feel and there's you know there's I don't wanna like open this is opening a whole different.
11:17:32 Kind of worms, and I want to just presence that I don't want to go down this door. but like one of the things that comes up for me right now around.
11:17:37 This is like, you know, the the knowledge base that comes with track cycle tracking and like and contraception like birth, birth, cool birth, control. right?
11:17:51 There is power in knowing your cycle both for you and for me. right We're not aiming to have another child, And so, knowing your cycle like really supports with that and And also I
11:18:08 just you know, wanna be cheeky here, like it's it's been like very on point even probably to me being obsessed with cycle tracking that when my auditory phase is in you're just like
11:18:22 ready to have a child. Your body is just like yeah just wanna name that, you know, because i'm imagining that maybe other relationships might be experiencing like a time in their you know, in their relationship where it's like whoa
11:18:40 like the sex energy is really up right now, and maybe could be around ovulation.
11:18:48 More likely this is yes, yeah. Yeah, this is a good time to ask Ayla like, you know, or let island know what what you need.
11:19:00 And because she's so much more available to be like Oh, yeah, yeah, i'm overflowing well, actually, yeah, thanks for saying that just like springtime feels like the time.
11:19:12 Where I like, do do work like here's what i'm gonna do and then usually, if that's gone, If I've done my work there.
11:19:20 Now is the time when I can ask for something in return.
11:19:25 Where are you getting their true back exactly yeah Yeah, and so it's It's a good time for that like kind of thing that's been on the back of the mind that I didn't ask about because I knew it wasn't the time like Now this is the
11:19:35 time. Oh, great! that's important where it'll be met with like with more openness. right it's an open time don't don't ask in ludo
11:19:53 You can ask in moody what you'll get in Ludio is a very direct, precise truth, telling like cold to the bone like answer.
11:20:01 It might not be warm and supple like ovulatory energy, but you'll you.
11:20:07 You'll get something this is so helpful you guys to be able to know this and share this Yeah.
11:20:18 This is wisdom that more men and women need to know.
11:20:21 I agree. I I personally feel like i've been telling all my friends.
11:20:26 I'm like hey? here's what i've been up to like this is what's happening like this is like It's it's magic it's informational magic yes, and then embodied and lived
11:20:38 out right the last one last one truth truth teller. Yeah. So ludio right?
11:20:50 Which is where where i'm at right now after ovulation This spans about like Ted or 10 to 14 days.
11:20:58 And this is, you know, estrogen's dropping progesterone, progesterone is the main sex hormone.
11:21:05 That is there, like holding the echo meat under met him lighting metabolism for women at this time tends to be higher, so her body's working the body's just working really really hard.
11:21:18 To prepare for baby or the bleed, and this is fall.
11:21:27 This is also the the time where I I again called the Truth Teller.
11:21:34 This is where we begin to harvest the abundance from spring and summer.
11:21:39 And we ask what is essential you know Now that you know we've gotten to be in the the abundance of the prior 2 seasons. what is really essential here, as we know that we're gonna be preparing for winter time what are the things
11:21:55 that we actually need. And so the woman in this phase she's a lot more detail Oriented can be kind of closing out tasks that were left open when she was very active, and engaging during spring and summer this is you know
11:22:10 sort of like clean clearing the Co. closet like organizing the files. kind of energy, you know, and that's why the truth teller is like, Oh, we gotta throw that out, or oh, we gotta go.
11:22:20 You know, do this? Oh, we gotta like take care of that thing, and a little bit more.
11:22:26 Yeah like manager and energy and there's a particular directness. and this is usually the time where they're the men are like Oh, she's hormonal you know, cause she's a little bit more like
11:22:41 cranky, and there is a reason for that if she wasn't taking care of her needs during throughout the cycle everything piles up here in Ludiol because the body is a k we're gonna go into a really deep winter i'm
11:22:53 not going to be available to work for you the same way and so we're just gonna push all these files forward, so you can take care of them.
11:23:00 Now, and can you imagine the amount of pressure and load on the body?
11:23:06 You know at that time, or it's like there's all of this stuff I need to take care of, and like I wasn't taking care of my needs, Prior, I mean, how did everybody now like you know that typically is like what we have during what we
11:23:17 call Pms. you know, I mean there's like a over like 150 symptoms that a woman can experience during her Pms phase everything from mood swings to acne to bloating to back pain just so
11:23:34 much, you know that a woman is probably and or has experienced in this time, And so she's like, Yeah, I gotta get these things done, you know, and and and if i'm in relationship with people say can you help me out here is like
11:23:51 there's so much to track and do that's that's very true for me.
11:23:55 I I noticed that, like things that in the refrigerator need to be put away and like.
11:24:01 Now that needs to go now, you know, or the backyard needs to be reorganized.
11:24:04 You know little things like that tends to come up for me, and I also notice that my my patience is a little bit shorter, because my body is so busy right now doing things that have a little bit less bandwidth to
11:24:19 be more Oh, you know generous with my energy.
11:24:27 Thanks for you, Thank you for that sharing that's in excuse me
11:24:35 To take it so specifically into your own body helps. I think our listeners go.
11:24:41 Oh, I recognize that and then a 150 symptoms.
11:24:48 Helpful to have in the show notes.
11:24:54 Yeah, i'll i'll have to source like a a list that I like that.
11:24:58 Yeah, let's all us know what some of the things women's bodies are working.
11:25:05 Okay, Alden, we get to have a few minutes of view like biggest thing is just check your ego.
11:25:18 So this this phase of the cycle is traditionally the hardest for me to be with
11:25:28 I don't like having critical feedback tossed at me by like, by my lover, by the person who I like care so deeply about. and one of the things that i've gotten hacklamated to it Okay, Okay, So
11:25:44 there's like spring and summer right those are the times like get shit done, and then, like falls harvest time right like, and in that harvest time, like it's also a doing phase.
11:25:55 But like if I haven't prepped for the harvest and spring and summer like it's gonna be a lot more work right and like my lack of preparation is on me right so as we're coming into
11:26:08 that that loyal phase like I gotta check my ego because there's just stuff that needs to get done, and if it feels personal, Hmm!
11:26:17 That's not her fault. it's not your fault it's like, and that that is not like That's a blurry line, and that's a line that i've been had a really hard time
11:26:27 with accepting i'm like and what's been happening more recently is I'm.
11:26:36 Like as I have a deeper understanding of where you are.
11:26:37 Ila in the cycle. it's like when when the energy of that I would call like, say quotes like critical comes out.
11:26:48 It's like, Okay, what she need right Now, like what need is actually presenting themselves right now.
11:26:54 Through these words, and if I Didn't take it personally like, what would I do right now?
11:27:02 Hmm! and like we had an interaction this morning. where it was like like our our energy wasn't mixing well and like I got to a place where, like I was whatever.
11:27:13 Happened next. I was gonna take personally. Hmm, Hmm!
11:27:15 And so I like, Okay, I just I need a couple of minutes like I went over the other room, and then I came back and like when I came back like we got.
11:27:26 We had gotten to that kind of like what i'll call like a deeper truth where it was like kind of an undercurrent like got to be like acknowledged.
11:27:35 And in that like, and I think that's kind of a theme for ludio, like I use the word like holding earlier, and it's like if I can hold what comes up with taking it personally without like my ego just like stepping forward
11:27:45 to defend whatever I think is like unfair, or whatever things tend to soften.
11:27:54 If I can hold it, things tend to soften if i'm doing my work, whatever that harvest work is for me right.
11:28:03 Maybe there's some lesson that I haven't integrated yet. I gotta go work on that lesson.
11:28:05 Maybe it's the backyard needs to get cleaned up Got to go do that.
11:28:09 Maybe it's like I didn't clean the bathroom yet this week, and like it needs to get done because whatever senses senses are happening for a while, like it's there's more causticness in the environment that
11:28:20 her body is probably going to react to that like I gotta do my part to take care of
11:28:27 You, too. i'm so sorry that I have to say goodbye this morning.
11:28:32 I have an appointment. 1130, 1120, Eight Okay, Okay, Well, thank you.
11:28:40 Thank you. This feels like a a first first iteration.
11:28:43 I think we're going to need to follow up I totally agree.
11:28:46 I hope we can do work with you in 2 weeks I live that's works.
11:28:52 Yes, yes, that was really, really great to have you like here being in like witnessing this and part of it.